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Analysis of a subculture - Buduaar.ee forum members

Laura Bander




1.      The Idea


The idea to write about forum members as a subculture came to my mind when we were told to interract with the subculture.

At first I wanted to write about goth subculture since I have been in that subculture for several years, but now I have changed my style a lot but I still have goth friends and I go to goth parties all the time. Writing about punks seemed to be a bit boring for me even though I have had a lot of punk friends during the last 7-8 years and I go to the concerts since I am a big fan of Psychoterror. After hearing people telling about their subcultures it seemed to me that most of these are very alternative subcultures. So I decided to take something that looks on a first sight to be mainstream and simple but is actually not – forum for women called Buduaar. I have been a registered member for 1,5 years now and before that I visited that site several times a week for a year.

For this writing I have been collecting information from this site and also asked some members online and in real life since I have some friends there as members too. I haven’t posted any information about Buduaar to livejournal because I closed my topics before Christmas, I have no idea what is my livejournal password since I have a new computer and all my passwords were saved to the old one and I do not want this writing to be published anywhere because of the privacy of the users of Buduaar. Some people have answered my questions about Buduaar knowing that they are mentioned with their username in this writing and it geoes nowhere else. Therefor I hope you don’t put it online or use it in any other way that this information could ever get back to the Buduaar users.



2.      Buduaar


Buduaar.ee is a website that is originally meant for women in any age. The main age, the articles are written for, is 15-35. The main subjects are fashion, beauty products, relationships and healthy lifestyle including eating habits and sports. There is also a forum where members can comment the articles or can start their own discussions. Buduaar has also a market called B-Turg and a Buduaar magazine which can be found in supermarkets.

The forum is opened for anyone and you can join and become a member. Also the forum is public so people can read the topics without owning an user account. The forum has main subjects marked so people can easily find what they are interested in. The forum itself looks like this:

 Foorumi mängud – Forum games is the forum where people can play games. Some of these are created by moderators of the forum and the winners also get prizes.

Seks ja Suhted – Sex and relationships. Defenately the most popular forum of all. As the name itself says, people talk about their relationships and also sex life. Some users tend to be very opened and like to share their personal information in public but of course the usernames usually don’t carry any information about their real identity.

Hingemured – Soul problems. People often complain about their probems and also look for others who have the same problems. Many people are also opened for any advice to get over the issues in life.

Horoskoobid – Horoscopes. There people don’t find their everyday horoscope but can talk about sodiac sigs. Many topics are about how female Virgo and a male Spieces can work together in a relationship.

Rasedus and beebi – Pregnancy and a baby. About having babies and raisig them. I usually don’t go there because the babymothers (in estonian called „tibuemmed“) are always defending their opinions with „You don’t know, you don’t have a baby“. So most of the users stay out of there.

Pere ja lapsed – Family and kids. Most of the users of the pregnancy and baby forum go there too, so many people stay out of there again.

Ilu ja mood – Beauty and fashion. Very popular and one of the reasons I got myself an account in Buduaar. In this forum people can find information about new beauty products, about the prices and also hear form the people who have used these already. Some users like to post pictures of their new clothes and ask for an opinion or for advice what shoes to wear with it. Haircut topics are very popular and people post a lot of pictures of the cuts and colors. Solarium is something that people can’t live without(or so it seems), there are questions posted every day like „How many minutes should I take?“, „Which solarium is the best, the lowest prices?“ and „What products do you use in solarium?“. Most of these topics have been made before but the new users often don’t know how to use the search button.

Vaba aeg – Free time. About how you spend your free time and where, with who etc. People talk about events, sports and hobbies.

Puhkus ja reisimine – Vacation and travelling. People often ask about certain flight companies, hotels and destinations. Very useful if you find a person who has been where you want to go. You can get information about the prices, people and even dangers that can harm you (like robbers).

Vaba teema – Free topic. Write whatever you want.

Buduaar.ee – About the website, its problems (when something isn’t working). Also people like to ask about users who are selling on B-Turg if they are trustful or not. There are also posted lists of trustful sellers and buyers since it is quite easy to commit a freud.

Kokakunst – Cooking. Very useful if you are looking for recipes. Even if you use some recipe website it is better to ask people who have actually tried te recipe.

Televisioon – Television. About television and also movies.

Kingiideed – Ideas for presents.

Pakun või otsin tööd – Job offers or looking for a job

Tervis – Health.

Buduaari mõttekoda – Buduaar’s thoughtchamber. People tell about their ideas which could be helpful to build Buduaar a better place.



3.      Language


The main langugae in Buduaar is estonian. There are many russian users who write in estonian with some mistakes and people also use some english words or phrases. Some estonians seem to have skipped school because of their bad estonian, other users often comment their mistakes. There are also some common mistakse that are made:

Laovärv (warehouse color) not lauvärv (eye sahdow) – this is seen quite often and people like to point it out by adding the links to Sadolin or other companies that sell paint you can use for ceiling and floors.

Pluuse and not pluus (blouse)– this is not very common anymore but people still like to add an extra e to many words.

Talking about language, then there are several sayings that are used in Buduaar very often. If someone says something extra stupid, then others like to tell her/him „Süstal peast“ (take the hypodermic syringe out of your head) or tell the person to use less drugs („Ära rohkem pähe süsti“).



4.      Members


In Buduaar there are all kind of people but I have made some categories and also described these.


1.      Sellers – people who use Buduaar because they are selling something on B-Turg. Some don’t ever use forum but many of them start to use it because they have to check their Buduaar mailbox pretty often.


2.      Babymother – Tibuemmed is the worst group in my opinion. First of all they have every post connected with their baby and they like to think that now when they have their babies they are somehow smarter and better. Secondly they like to critizise others who are not living like they are, especially poeple who party a lot and who are not in a serious relationship (like the last thing could ever be changed by only one person). Babymothers usually don’t like to stay in their own forum corner so they have to spamm the other topics once in a while.



3.      Male users – Buduaar has actually many very active male users. They are smart, funny and like to make jokes about make-up, solarium and fake nails. They also give good advice and sometimes they are looking for it too. My favourite male users are Arxz, Bossmees and Erki (they are also posting almost every day and active in many topics).


4.      Random users – the majority of the Buduaar users who will never „shine“, who’s usernames will never me remembered and most of them use Buduaar for a certain time and then they disappear.



5.      Forum stars – the 300 users that have the most forum points. Every post gives you one point and you can also exchange the points to gifts that are given from the Buduaar board. I’d like to point out some forum stars: danoa, Chapake, Laurita, Static, Fogel


And now I’d like to show some of the result of my research and publish in this writing some answers (danoa, Chapake, Laurita, Erki and Arxz). I also told them who are the other users I sent the questions (I sent the questions to all these users but Bossmees didn’t answer, he likes to keep a low profile. Static’s and Fogel’s answers were incomplete and didn’t have much to add).


1.      How long have you been using Buduaar and how long have you been a member?

2.      Why did you join?

3.      Do you use only forum or maybe B-Turg too?

4.      Who do you know from Buduaar in real life?

5.      Have you ever posted your real name, real photo in this forum? Do you think people know who you really are?

6.      What do you do in real life? What is your educational background?



Username: danoa (no capital letter used)


1.      How long have you been using Buduaar and how long have you been a member?

I have been using Buduaar from the beginning. I think it was 2004 maybe when it was first opened. Then after a while it was changed and all the usernames got lost so I had to get a new one but my name remains the same. Everyone knows me by this name here and I also have some friends from Buduaar who call me danoa even though they know my real name.


2.      Why did you join?

Because I was a bit bored and I wanted to say out my opinion. At that time this kind of forums were pretty rare and Buduaar was the first one to come out with such an idea of a forum for women.


3.      Do you use only forum or maybe B-Turg too?

I have sold several clothes on B-Turg and I have bought some things too.


4.      Who do you know from Buduaar in real life?

I am a good friend with Chapake and many other users as well. I also know you by the face and that you are good friends with Laurita.


(just for the record I have never met danoa in real life, I now know who she is, since she added me on facebook so I could see her photos and I could recognize her the next time).


5.      Have you ever posted your real name, real photo in this forum? Do you think people know who you really are?

Never. The ones who know me wouldn’t say anything. I have asked to take down all the pictures of me taken at the Buduaar parties.


6.      What do you do in real life? What is your educational background?

I work in a car insurance company as a top executive.



Username: Chapake the Pancake Rabbit


1.      How long have you been using Buduaar and how long have you been a member?

About 5 years at least. I registered the same time I sarted using it.


2.      Why did you join?

Because I had to comment on organic cosmetics since it is one of the biggest topics here that interests me.


3.      Do you use only forum or maybe B-Turg too?

I sell my organic cosmetics on B-Turg for the last few years since I have been making them.


4.      Who do you know from Buduaar in real life?

You, danoa, many other users and I have seen Laurita too.


5.      Have you ever posted your real name, real photo in this forum? Do you think people know who you really are?

Yes I have posted many photos, also with my boyfriend and our rabbit. The users here also know my name because I sell things here and I have to give out my real name and account number in order to run my business here. Estonia is a small place, everybody knows everybody.


6.      What do you do in real life? What is your educational background?

I have studied computer science and I work in this area for the last couple of years, right now I’m a Java tester and I run my own team. I also make organic cosmetics, sell them through internet and I’m planning to open my shop in two years.



Username: Laurita


1.      How long have you been using Buduaar and how long have you been a member?

At least 6-7 years, I found it when it was created. This is my second account here.


2.      Why did you join?

I was bored and there wasn’t much to do in the internet at that time.


3.      Do you use only forum or maybe B-Turg too?

I buy and sell on B-Turg. I Sell mostly shoes I don’t need anymore or haven’t wore at all and I buy cosmetics and perfumes.


4.      Who do you know from Buduaar in real life?

You and some others. I know a lot of users by their faces, I’d like to meet Bossmees.


5.      Have you ever posted your real name, real photo in this forum? Do you think people know who you really are?

I have posted my first name and also my picture.


6.      What do you do in real life? What is your educational background?

I studied law for 2 years, then started with my passion – opera. I studied for 4 years classical singing in Tartu and now I’m in Tallinn and becoming a real opera singer, I’m a dramatic sopran. I do not work full time but I give some shorter concerts once in a while.



Username: Erki


1.      How long have you been using Buduaar and how long have you been a member?

3 years now, at first I read the forum for 2-3 months, then got myself an account.


2.      Why did you join?

Because it was funny and interesting and there aren’t many forums for male users. Most of them are about cars, I was more interested in relationships and psychology.


3.      Do you use only forum or maybe B-Turg too?

Only forum and couple of times a week. Otherwise it takes too much of my free time.


4.      Who do you know from Buduaar in real life?

Nobody. But I think I have seen some members and I have heard that they have seen me.


5.      Have you ever posted your real name, real photo in this forum? Do you think people know who you really are?

My username is my real name and I also have posted a picture of myself (even 2-3 times at least). I don’t think they know me by my last name.


6.      What do you do in real life? What is your educational background?

I study in the university in Tallinn and I work in a bar/restaurant.





Username: Arxz


1.      How long have you been using Buduaar and how long have you been a member?

Maximum 2 years now.


2.      Why did you join?

Because I wanted some advice to get my relationship back on the track.


3.      Do you use only forum or maybe B-Turg too?

Only forum.


4.      Who do you know from Buduaar in real life?

I have some female friends who have said that they use Buduaar but I don’t know their usernames.


5.      Have you ever posted your real name, real photo in this forum? Do you think people know who you really are?

No. I haven’t posted any personal information


6.      What do you do in real life? What is your educational background?

I’m a salesman and I have studied economics.



6.      Traditions


Every week we choose the topic of the week. Once in a year we get to vote for our favourite Buduaar member. Member of the year once was danoa, then Viiguska and now we are waiting for the member of 2010. There have been votes given to Bossmees, danoa, Chapake and Laurita as well but it seems that a user called Arsenic might win it in the end.

There are also Buduaar parties that mostly take place in Tartu and Tallinn. There is also public Buduaar market twice a year where people can sell and buy.








Reality-stars: A short conclusion
As you have seen, we have not presented extensive research results trying to comprehend all those who have taken part of these shows. Instead we have chose a few exemplary individuals who represent (as we feel) best the contradictions concerning the relationship between their life and the „reality-tv-subculture”. It is clear that this subculture cannot be viewed as constituted from the inside: as a creation of individuals sharing common values, beliefs, signification-systems – in this respect reality-stars are not a subculture. But constituted from the outside, by the media, using a process of naming and description, creates a kind of common denominator, against which all of these individuals are described and compared. In this respect we feel that it is possible to delimit reality-stars as a subculture. Gabriel Kubjas simply cannot be everything and do everything (http://buduaar.ee/Article/article/832) – he is inevitably regardes as Gabriel of Farm. So, whether they like it or not, of course if they want to be known in public (because there are individuals that are not in the media focus and so can live as not „belonging” to this subculture), the reality-tv-stars remain involved with this title, this scandal-looking public eye defining their activities. It is then not simply a matter of wanting to belong to a culture, the cultural space is created and it needs individuals to fill it; it is impossible to just say that „I’m out” – a common space is created from the outside, by the media. To step out would have to mean to not say anything – to live out of focus.

Ott Puumeister / Tiiu Tali


After describing how media interpretets/depicts reality-tv-stars we focus on thoughts and reflections of reality-tv-stars which has been described by media: how they set forth themselves in relation to the reality show?

In the last post we brought forth two examples of the reality show stars who were namely Talis Kitsing and Gabriel Kubjas, and described the images of them which was created by media. Substantially these characterizations of Reality-tv-stars were rather negative and so it isn't suprising that these mentioned Stars weren't content with it.

Example no 1. Talis Kitsing were referred by media as a "bad guy". Talis participated in reality show "Baar" with intention to advertize martial arts so that young people would come and take part of his conditioner of martial arts (Talis was a coach of martial arts at Riveta then). But after the reality show Talis was disappointed in media and tried to preserve his honor by attempting depict himself as a man with "strong justice" and "sharp sense of humor", who "hates rutine". He has said that "it was never his attemption to show or state that he is a tough guy" and that "he is ordinary man who simply was lost in the show". Talis was much concerned about his image and he was afraid that "half of Estonians describe his as man with greate vanity". He hates the nickname "Talis of Baar" (Baari-Talis) and he has refused to give interviews if they (interviewers) would use that nickname – he simply preferred his own name, Talis Kitsing. After the reality show he tried to warn public not to participate in these shows, because of ruined reputation: "there is nobody who would take your words seriously". Also, "you have to be psychologically strong", says Talis. At the same time, Talis has confessed that in reality show he tried to think about spectators and act like it would "exciting" to observe: on his own accord, Talis turned into "interesting show-man" just for that reality show. Afterwards other participants has told that Talis somehow "got stuck" into reality show. In july 2009 Talis Kitsing died at his home, without any clear reason.

Example no 2. Gabriel Kubjas was depicted by media more positive way as it was Talis Kitsing. Gabriel himself has told that "it is mere show and that's all" and therefore he have to do "interesting acts" and intrigue public, so that there would be high rate of spectators of the show. He liked the notoriety and fame, and he also achieved success as a stripper. But, despite of his deceptive "better life", he has mentioned that participation in reality show "fucked up" his life. Gabriel: "Always I have to refrain myself and pay close attention on my moves". He also complains about "new enemies" who "hate" him "just because of that show". Gabriel Kubjas admits that he has "stupid reputation" which doesn't fade away. So irrespective of Gabriel's positive image, he has also "stupid image" and he has same complaints about the reality show as Talis Kitsing had.

Ott Puumeister / Tiiu Tali

Dear students!
I am very satisfied with the results of the course. Thank you very much for your cooperation. Everybody who have posted their materials will get the highest credits. I also plan to use these materials for our collective volume on subcultures. And I'd be very grateful if you could collect all your entries in one file and send it to me to the gmail address elena.grigorieva@gmail.com. It would be easier for me to edit them. Those who do not want to contribute to this volume, please, let me know.

Happy New Year
Sincerely yours


Here is an interview with one of the poker players, Martin (22)


1.                              When did you start to play poker?


Some years ago I started to bet on sport results – sometimes it was much more interesting to watch soccer, hockey or even tennis when I had put some money on someone. One day when I was surfing on triobet.com I found poker and I started to check it out. First I played poker just for fun, when I had nothing else to do. But 2 years ago one of my friends started to play poker for money. He earned quite well and I wanted to try it, too. So I made little research in the Internet how to play poker successfully… and now I can say I am quite good at it and I play regularly, for money. It’s like a job to me.


2.                              What kind of poker do you play?


I play online-poker mostly. Usually I play in pokkerstars.com, triobet.com and fulltilt.com, but I have also played in unibet.com for example. But these three are usual ones. There are different campaigns and tournaments in each site, so I look where it is clever to play at this certain moment and then I just play. I prefer sng-s*, there are different leagues for them, for example autumn league, winter league etc. In these leagues you have to earn certain amount of points during the specific time (a month usually) and the ones who have most points, gets money. It’s really great opportunity to earn something.


3.                              How did you hear about pokkerikool.com? Why do you go to pokkerikool.com events?


I found it when I was making a research about playing poker, but I didn’t pay attention to it really. Once I was looking what to do and I checked pokkerikool.com thoroughly out. I found that they organize game-nights in café Tao in Tallinn and I thought why not to go and practice how to play better live-poker. I invited a friend with me and we went and played. It was really fun and very first time I was there, I got third place. So I went next time as well and etc. However, I don’t go there every week because I’m not in town all the time, but when I am in Tallinn and I have nothing else to do, I really like to go there. Pokkerikool.com events are good entertainment for evening. It is really fun to play live poker. It is also good that you don’t have to pay for playing, it is freeroll, so by loosing you don’t actually loose anything.


4.                              Why do you play poker?


As I said, poker is like a job to me– I go to university of Tallinn and playing poker is a part-time (sometimes even full-time, haha…) job. I don’t have certain remuneration every month, but I still earn enough money to live quite good life for a student. Sometimes we make poker-nights with friends or go to casinos game-nights, but that is pure entertainment.


5.                              What to you think about poker?


Poker… I really like it. It’s not easy to earn good money with poker, however, I think I prefer anytime playing 8 hours poker per day instead of working in some kind of office. During the last two years my understanding about money has changed a lot. Sometime poker makes me reeaaalllyy nervous as well! But that just part of the game, everyone who plays poker gets some bad beats some day. I think that if you’re a good player, poker gives you many opportunities to earn some money. But some players are so stupid I can’t even believe it… they play with so bad cards in so bad positions, and sometimes they even win! Haha, those moments are so non-realistic. But this is poker.


6.                              Are there any differences between online- and live-poker in your opinion? Which one do you prefer?


There are many differences. Although the game environment is totally different in online and live poker, basic rules and strategies remain. Still, in live-poker there are “real” people next to you, and it gives you quite a lot of information. There is no body language to read in online-poker, but you can still read other players by observing their moves. Someone is very aggressive, someone is slow, someone stupid, someone plays really tight etc. Most of the time I play online-poker, and when I go to play live-poker, I take it automatically completely other way – it is a entertainment to me to play poker in some café or casino, I don’t take it as a job, I don’t have to win. Winning is just a bonus for interesting game. So it is not easy to say which one I prefer, because I take them so differently. I think online-poker is better, ‘cause my playing-purpose is earning money.


7.                              Do you know other people who play poker?


Yes, many my friends play poker. 2-3 of them take it as seriously as I do, couple of them play it just for fun. I know other people, who aren’t my friends, too. I have seen same people in different events, so we know each other faces, but we are not friends. I can assure you that there are many people who play poker, m a n y. Yet all of them aren’t good. But the more bad players are out there, than better to me, haha.


8.                              Do you read about poker news, events, tournaments etc? Where do you get your information?


When you play poker as seriously as I do, you should read poker news. I read them from different sites, usually from triobet.com, unibet.com etc. The more information you have, than better you are. There are very many useful strategies, and if you want to earn money with poker, you should develop yourself. It is not just playing, and it is definitely not game of luck, like many people think. Usually if I am looking for some information, I just type something in Google and I get what I’m looking for. So yes, Internet is main information source.


9.                              Have you ever perceived some kind of prejudice about poker from other people? What kind of?


Oh yes, but these prejudices come usually from poor knowledge about poker world. Most people think that poker is just gambling. Well, it kind of is, but definitely not ONLY gambling. It’s not like everyone who plays poker are addicted gamblers. My mom always says that I should stop playing before it’s “too late” and often people boggle when they hear that I play poker regularly. I am really not an addict, haha!



* sng – sit and go tournament. Number of players and prize structure are known.

Eliisa Matsalu
Merilyn Viin




Poker players believe that poker isn’t a game of luck, but strategy and ability. Of course luck is a part of the game, but not the main component. Sometimes it is luck that decides who wins, but usually it all depends how someone is playing. So the main value of poker word is knowledge of the game, strategies and ability to play well. Most people play poker because of money. If you’re good at it, you can earn quite a lot of money (as well as lose some). Poker players have to be very self-confident, or at least act like confident, because it is quite easy to “read” other players (that’s so if you’re a good player of course). Poker isn’t some kind of subculture what is characterized by the appearance. It is more about the way of thinking. Poker is a game where strategies are better to be known and abilities to play well counts a lot. Poker players are people with realistic, mathematical thinking and straight logic. However, there are always some members in this subculture, who are so called “luck-lookers”.

So we can say that poker players are with mathematical thinking and sometimes they may not presume themselves as part of some kind of subculture. They know that there are people that play poker like they do, and that they share a common language, but they don’t think about themselves like a “subculture that differs somehow of the main culture with certain identifications”. However, this is exactly what they are in our point of view. It’s not important to poker players to categorise themselves as something.

            When it comes to Pokkerikool.com, then there are 3 main values. One of them is also knowledge and approving game skills, because pokkerikool.com purpose is to teach people how to play poker. Second value is entertainment. Usually people go to play poker on Friday night in café Tao or Spordibaas because they want to do something. Poker can be very interesting and intense game – it depends of the interest of course. So it can be a good leisure time activity. Third value is winning. You have to be good all the time if you want to win the main award, and smaller awards aren’t something very desirous ones, but the idea of winning is the award of itself. People want to be good at something and it is always good to win, be best at something.


We are taking a little interview with one person who has participates pokkerikool.com events. Here are questions what we are going to ask:


  1. When did you start to play poker?
  2. What kind of poker do you play?
  3. How did you hear about pokkerikool.com? Why do you go to pokkerikool.com events?
  4. Why do you play poker?
  5. What to you think about poker?
  6. Are there any differences between online- and live-poker in your opinion? Which one do you prefer?
  7. Do you know other people who play poker?
  8. Do you read about poker news, events, tournaments etc? Where do you get your information?
  9. Have you ever perceived some kind of prejudice about poker from other people? What kind of?

Eliisa Matsalu
Merilyn Viin

Differences between online and conventional poker

I think it is important to talk about main differences between online and conventional poker.

There are substantial differences between online poker gaming and conventional, in-person gaming. One obvious difference is that players do not sit right across from each other. This is removing any ability to observe others reactions and body language. Instead, online poker players learn to focus more keenly on betting patterns, reaction time, speed of play, use of check boxes/auto plays, opponents fold percentages, chat box, waiting for the big blind, beginners tells etc. Since poker is a game that requires adaptability, successful online players learn to master the new frontiers of their surroundings. In my opinion it is bad that we are forgetting our body language. Next generation learns life from computer? For example how to kiss:D Ok this was just occasional thought:) Back to poker.

Another less obvious difference is the rate of play. In brick and mortar casinos the dealer has to collect the cards, shuffle, and deal them after every hand. Due to this and other delays common in offline casinos, the average rate of play is around thirty hands per hour. However, online casinos do not have these delays. The dealing and shuffling are instantaneous, there are no delays relating to counting chips (for a split pot), and on average the play is faster due to "auto-action" buttons (where the player selects his action before his turn). It is not uncommon for an online poker table to average ninety to one hundred hands per hour!!!

Online poker is considerably cheaper to play than conventional poker. Even if you got only few dollars – everyone can play. While structures of online poker sites might not differ fundamentally from those in brick and mortar operations, most of the other incidental expenses that are entailed by playing poker in a live room do not exist in online poker. An online poker player can play at home and thus incur no transportation costs to get to and from the poker room. Provided the player already has a somewhat modern computer and an Internet connection, there are no further up-front equipment costs to get started. There are also considerable incidental expenses once on a live poker table. In addition to the rake, tipping the dealers, chip runners, servers and other casino employees is almost universally expected, putting a further drain on a player's profits. Also, whereas an online player can enter and leave tables almost as he pleases, once seated at a live table a player must remain there until he wishes to stop playing, or else go back to the bottom of the waiting list.

Food and beverages at casinos are generally expensive even compared to other hospitality establishments in the same city (let alone compared to at home) and casino managers feel little incentive to take extra money from poker players.

In the brick and mortar casinos, the only real way a player can increase his earnings is to increase his limit, likely encountering better opponents in the process. In the online world players have another option: play more tables. Unlike a traditional casino where it is physically impossible to play at more than one table at a time, most online poker rooms permit this. Depending on the site and the player's ability to make speedy decisions, a player might play several tables at the same time, viewing them each in a separate window on the computer display. For example, an average profit around $10 per 100 hands at a low-limit game is generally considered to be good play. In a casino, this would earn a player under $4 an hour. After dealer tips, the "winning" player would probably barely break even before any other incidental expenses. In an online poker room, a player with the same win rate playing a relatively easy pace of four tables at once at a relatively sluggish 60 hands per hour each earns about $24/hour on average. The main restriction limiting the number of tables a player can play is the need to make consistently good decisions within the allotted time at every table, but some online players can effectively play up to eight or more tables at once. This can not only increase winnings but can also help to keep a player's income reasonably stable, since instead of staking his entire bankroll on one higher limit table he is splitting his bankroll, wins and losses amongst many lower limit tables, probably also encountering somewhat less skilled opponents in the process.

Another important difference results from the fact that some online poker rooms offer online poker schools that teach the basics and significantly speed up the learning curve for novices. Many online poker rooms also provide free money play so that players may practice these skills in various poker games and limits without the risk of losing real money, and generally offer the hand history of played hands for analysis and discussion using a poker hand converter. People who previously had no way to learn and improve because they had no one to play with now have the ability to learn the game much quicker and gain experience from free-money play. Look for example www.pokkerikool.ee  .

Poker popularity has never been as widespread nor as quickly growing as it is right now. There are many reasons why internet poker is so popular. Information of poker is available online and it is very easy to play poker whereever you would like to play it. Even you can stay at home – just log in and play with other poker players from around the world, and money is coming! Furthermore this poker community is ever-growing bigger. There is no time like the present to join the poker craze.

We thinked about our circle of acquiainstances who are playing online poker and both of us know at least 4 friends who are doing it. So this gave to us a little idea. It is really glad to announce that we will take a little interview with a online poker player and also we thinked to make a short inquire in our circle of acquaintances.
Main questions are: How many friends of yours are playing online poker? Do they play mainly because of money or just for fun/spend the time ? Gender? Approximate age?

So our first results are coming soon:)

Tartu Student Theatre as a subculture - SHORT OVERVIEW

Tartu Student Theatre doesn’t classify as something usually understood as subculture. That means, the members don’t have conjoining music or clothing style. On the contrary, the tastes in these areas are quite different. Still the members of TÜT have a strong bond with each other and they have certain similarities. We have brought out five of the most important aspects which characterize the members of TÜT as a subculture:

1. Rituals – ritual events of TÜT can be divided into four groups (if we don’t include weekly rehearsals, training and acting out plays, which are the most common and routine reasons of meeting for the active members): trials for new members, the parties, summer school and winter camp, international festivals.

2. Language – TÜT members do have a very significant slang. It can mostly be divided into three parts – phrases from performances integrated into everyday life; phrases of making jokes about themselves or imitating the others (especially director Kalev Kudu, but the actors as well); random phrases arising from a lot of time spent together (especially during festivals or intensive rehearsal-period). The members of TÜT only use these expressions when communicating with each other, so the belonging to a group is confirmed by common language. This sets a barrier for others outside the group. Also, in addition to this joke-like and allusional argot TÜT members have a number of words that most of the other people don't use daily – these are theatre-specifical words. They are mostly not unknown to other Estonian language users, but their usage is much more intense and varied among theatre members (they are not used only in their usual context).

3. Idols – most of the members don’t claim to have an idol. The central figure of TÜT – the director Kalev Kudu can be considered as an idol, but not in a typical way. He’s a very conflictive person and the members often make fun of him, but he is still respected for keeping TÜT together. The face of TÜT is very much influenced by him, mostly because he is responsible for TÜT view on theatre, accepting new members etc. It is also said ammong TÜT members that in a few years working with Kalev all the male members tend to become more and more like the director in their mode of behaviour, so the influence is very important.

4. Places - TÜT has no owned premises. For its rehearsals and performances the rooms are rented, and they are always located in different parts of Tartu. So, the main time spent together – rehearsals, performances, and socializing after them – isn’t really located in a specific space. Different rooms have been important in different times, so now the members consider the best room to be “where the friends are”. Having no certain rooms causes instability on the creative aspect, but it doesn’t seem to bother the members as long as they routinely meet and have their traditional events.

5. Values - People of TÜT are located certainly somewhere away from the mainstream culture and can more easily be said to be alternative. They don’t value consumerism – that can be derived from the answers concerning clothing, music. They admire sincerity, intelligence, good humor. The most important aspect is diversity – they admire it on others and they want themselves to be as diverse as possible. They are very goal-oriented and keen on developing themselves. Their goals aren’t usually material.

Estonian food bloggers as a subculture
I wrote about estonian food bloggers.
Since my post is quite long, I will just give a link to the whole text:


Kadri Märtin




When it comes to poker player appearance, there are no specific features we can say is common for them. Players usually dress normal, basic differences in clothing usually arise from other kind of cultural distinctions, hobbies, music taste, values etc. In short, appearance isn’t main identification in poker subculture and different member clothing style comes from other subcultures they may participate in.

However, there are some little elements that are commonly used in tournaments. One of these is of course sunglasses. Although poker tournaments take place indoors, many players wear sunglasses, because it’s better to bluff when rivals can’t see your eyes. When we observed players in café Tao, we noticed that some of them use headphones and are listening mp3-players while playing cards. They are using them to ignore other players talking, not to take part of the communication between the players and to stay focus on their game, isolate themselves from the group and not to betray their emotions and thoughts.

Yet these appearance elements are used in tournaments and they are not something you can rely on during the identification of poker players – everyone, who play in the tournaments, are (usually) part of poker subculture and everyone, who wear sunglasses and use headphones, aren’t most definitely members of poker world.




Main identification is language. Poker players use very specific slang that others may not understand. Language they use is quite rich and it is quite easy to recognize by words they are using who is part of this subculture and who’s not. It’s even possible to recognize how thoroughgoing member of poker subculture someone is.

We asked some players to name specific poker words and expressions with definition (however, to some of them we had to find a definition from the Internet).

Here are the words that they pointed out:


All In In no-limit Texas hold’em, a player may declare himself "all in" and bet all of his chips into the pot.

Ante A small amount of chips placed into the pot before each hand. This acts as a "tax" for playing hands and is usually used in Stud games, whereas Hold'em games usually have blinds.

Bad Beat A bad beat is a loss in which the losing player had the better odds on the winning player earlier in the hand. In general, the term is used when all the chips go in the pot when the losing player had odds. To take a bad beat means to be on the losing end of a bad beat; to lay a bad beat means to be on the winning end of a bad beat.

Bet To put chips into the pot. Other players must either Call your bet, Raise you, or Fold.

Big Blind The larger of the two forced preflop bets. The player to the left of the small blind posts the big blind, the blinds ensure there is always money in the pot and "action" on every hand.

Blackjack The holdem starting hand Ace-Jack (AJ).

Brick A card that does not help any players hand.

Blinds In holdem, these are the forced bets that take the place of an ante. The player on the left of the dealer (or dealer button) must pay the small blind and the person after him must pay the big blind.

Bluff To bluff is to make a bet, when you know you have nothing. When you have no hand you hope that you are not called by your opponents. The aim of a bluff is to "buy" a pot because everyone else folds.

Boat A Full House. Also known as a full boat or simply full house.

Break A break is when you bet your strong hand very forcefully to win the pot. Most often your opponent will need to go all-in.

Call To bet an amount only equal to the previous bet.

Check In a betting round, if there are no previous bets or raises on a hand, players can "check" the hand and continue to play without wagering any more money.

Fish A fish is an novice or bad player, who often loses a lot of money.

Fixed-Limit Basically another way of saying "limit poker", there are set bets. Poker with set betting limits.

Flop The first three face up community cards in Holdem poker. First three board cards.

Flush A poker hand with 5 cards of the same suit.

Fold When player gives his/her cards away.

Four of a Kind Four cards of the same rank. For example, 2222, KKKK etc

Full House A poker hand consisting of a three-of-a-kind and a pair. Also known as "boat" or "full boat".

Hand round of cards that are out handed.

Hammer To bet and raise aggressively.

Heads Up when 2 players are left to play the hand.

Immortal An unbeatable hand.

Jam A pot where several players are raising.

Kamikaze A player who is on tilt so badly that they literally throw away their money with no regard or go all in with a rubbish or semi-strong hand.

Key Card A card that gives a player a big draw or makes a player's hand.

Kicker A kicker is a player's highest card that is used to break ties in poker hands.

Limit Poker Poker with set betting limits.

Muck The muck (noun) is the area on the table where all of the dead cards are placed once folded or burnt. To muck (verb) is to discard you hand in a showdown but not show your hand once you discover the other hand has beaten you.

No Limit A betting structure in which there is no maximum bet. Players may bet as much as they want at any time, at any time they can declare themselves "all in" and put all of their chips into the pot.

Pair A pair is two cards of the same rank. For example. 10 10, KK, QQ etc.

Pass To fold.

Passive Someone who does not bet and raise a lot.

Picked Off To get called when you are bluffing.

Picture Cards Face cards (Jack, Queen and King).

Pigeon An easy player.

Position Your seating position at the poker table is referred to as "position".

Pot Limit A betting structure in which the maximum size bet is the size of the pot plus the amount you would bet if you reraised.

Preflop The stage of a holdem game when you have two cards in your hand and there are no cards on the board yet.

Quads Four of a kind. Holding a set of four cards of the same rank.

Raise To make a bet larger than the previous bet, thus forcing the original bettor to call the difference or fold.

River The fifth and last community board card, after the turn. Also called fifth street.

Royal Flush The poker hand consisting of AKQJT of the same suit. The royal flush is the highest ranking poker hand possible, the Ace high straight flush.

Runner (or "Runner Up") A hand that is completed by catching both required cards on the turn and river.

Set Three of a kind where a player has a pocket pair and gets a third with the community cards.

Shark A shark is a good player and typically wins. A shark generally "eats" fish, the weaker amatuer players.

Shorthand This refers to a poker game with six or fewer people.

Small Blind The smaller of the two forced bets preflop. The player to the left of the dealer posts the small blind.

Stack An adjective describing chip amount.

Straight A poker hand consisting of 5 cards in order of rank. For example, 10JQKA

Straight Flush A poker hand consisting of 5 cards of the same suit and in order. A straight flush is a straight and a flush.

Three of a Kind A poker hand consisting of three cards of the same rank.

Tight Someone who does not play many hands.

Turn This is the fourth board card that comes out in holdem, the card after the flop.

Two Pair Two pair is a poker hand consisting of two pairs.

Zombie A poker player with no tells; a player with an excellent poker face.


            Signs, symbols, rituals


In the game some moves are replaced with signs. These are universal and everyone, who play, should know them, because basic communication during the game is mediated by these simple signs. When players Check their hands, they usually knock twice on the table. This knocking is automatically Checking. When player folds, he just shove his cards. When player raises, calls or puts all his chips in, then he just says „raise“, „call“ or „all in“. Sometimes new players are saying „callin“ instead of „call“, it’s like borrowed word from English to Estonian. But Callin sounds very similar to „all in“, so usually players prefer to use certain words that most of the players know – then it’s sure that nobody hears wrong. It shows that when it comes to basic words and rules, players prefer not to make any changes in them. Symbols are well-known to everybody – chips represents the stack, and often it is even with money. Dealer button is the signifier of players position (which changes with every hand). Also sunglasses and headphones, as mentoned before, may be signs of the players attitude. Both of these elements designate players will to isolate themselves from others.

Shuffleing cards can be seen as ritual. There’s a certain way of doing it. Firstly, dealer (or one of the players) shuffles cards on the table so everybody can see them. Then dealer asks permission to hand out the cards from the player who sits right of him/her. If the right-sitting player is pleased with shuffled cards, he points them with the finger and the dealer may hand out the cards. When player is not satisfied with shuffled cards, they have to apportion the card pack into two and then mix them. However, this is usually just an politeness.





Eliisa Matsalu, Merilyn Viin


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